How did the service meeting go in your neck of the woods?
Jerry
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Position on College Changed?
by Maximus inseveral have made outright statements and others have suggested that the society's negative position on higher education has changed.
'the society does not discourage higher education where i live.
' worse, 'apostates have made it all up--the society has never discouraged education.
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To: Maximus
by Amazing inhi max: this post may appear lengthy because i quoted many of your comments, but it is actually a short post with respect to my responses.
i chose to make a separate post to you as well as respond to your comments on philo's post because i was not sure if you would have opprotunity to review his post again.
hi maximus: thanks for responding to me.
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Amazing, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
This guy did not "stab," he made a simple comment. How could you possibly characterize this as a "hit and run swipe?"
<This last statement betrays you> Man that's loaded language.
You dissect what he says for far too long and attempt to get into his head. You are clearly reading into the post. May APPEAR lengthy?
Your response was not proportionate or commensurate IMNSHO and is yet another example of the style he complains about, no matter what label is attached.
Some may get off on this style but it is crap that turns me off. "You said, but obviously you really meant," "you betray yourself," "you correctly say," and all that. My objection has been registered in many ways by many persons over the last days.
I know a number who have left this board in disgust over style and form, not subject matter. I'd like to stick around. But who in God's name can feel free to post **ANYTHING** if they feel senior people like you are going to overanalyze it and put them on the spot, accusing them of running if they don't answer to your personal liking? I myself have been an overbearing elder for far too long and I need to be more Christ-like.
Take Kent's advice and go have a beer or two or three. Don't respond to this quickly if at all. I've made my point and that's all I care to do.
I enjoy your posts except when you come across as full of yourself. That's not ad hominem, just my personal opinion.
:: It is not a giantic leap, unless you may be a mental miget.
That's a very cheap shot at someone who is obviously not a "miget," sir, and who has helped me immensely by his posts. I resent it.
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Ad hominem
by philo inwhy do we sometimes attack people rather than ideas?.
we lack the mental reach to chase an argument further, or we just can't be bothered to, the issue clouds over, we begin to realise the limits of our capacity, and all we can see clearly is the person who brought us to this unpleasant place: so we lash out at them, our 'opponent'.. ideas are difficult and people seem easy.
the truth is that people are much more difficult, and when we attack them, it is not usually with understanding, rarely does it advance the debate.
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Nourishment for the Spirit
by Maximus inmy observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.
i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.
i'm going to ask your help in this thread.
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Will post favs later.
There is a wonderful ezine called "Ship of Fools--the Magazine of Christian Unrest," which taught me that there are serious religious groups that don't take things seriously and can poke fun at themselves. Hilarious.
Jerry
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Ad hominem
by philo inwhy do we sometimes attack people rather than ideas?.
we lack the mental reach to chase an argument further, or we just can't be bothered to, the issue clouds over, we begin to realise the limits of our capacity, and all we can see clearly is the person who brought us to this unpleasant place: so we lash out at them, our 'opponent'.. ideas are difficult and people seem easy.
the truth is that people are much more difficult, and when we attack them, it is not usually with understanding, rarely does it advance the debate.
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Don't want to see philo's post get buried in Troll-land and droll-land.
Jerry
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Ad hominem
by philo inwhy do we sometimes attack people rather than ideas?.
we lack the mental reach to chase an argument further, or we just can't be bothered to, the issue clouds over, we begin to realise the limits of our capacity, and all we can see clearly is the person who brought us to this unpleasant place: so we lash out at them, our 'opponent'.. ideas are difficult and people seem easy.
the truth is that people are much more difficult, and when we attack them, it is not usually with understanding, rarely does it advance the debate.
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<Coolbreeze,you said "Come on people grow up."
<Very good advice.
<neyank
Seems to be a general thought. So?
No one concludes from this that neyank or CoolBreeze are calling for control, structure, or the like. Sometimes the response to a post looks like it's just on autopilot. Not commensurate, reading into something what is not there.
Just my 2.
Jerry
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The Heavy Toll on Children of DF'd Parents
by FreePeace innote: contains passionate language.
two years ago, i divorced my wife, (who was an alcoholic).
close to the same time, think41self and i decided to marry, and for that, we were both disfellowshipped (couldn't prove scriptural freedom, but who cares now?).
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Up, for the braindead "humble."
Read about reality not about the world of the Stepford Wives.
Jerry
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Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
by Maximus inhere's another example of how the society uses selective quotations.
(see the thread blood, the watchtower and deceit for two other examples, carefully documented.
under the title "is it wrong to pronounce gods name?
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Is There A God? Who Cares?
by Kent inthe question is not that important.
a better question is "is there a known god?
i don't care.
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Eusebius Hieronymus
Kent, why is it that you produce such a blizzard? Why in the world start a thread like this after all the others you've started?
Good posts get buried in the process, shoved way down the board, makes it very difficult to find them.
You have a keen nose for what is good.
Censor yourself by presenting the best and forgetting the trash.
Like Farkel, I believe you would maintain your credibility better as owner of a website too. Use your power wisely rather than thoughtlessly.
Surely you do not want to turn away more persons than you attract. That's self-defeating.
Jerry
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The Truth about Venice
by Maximus in... all right, folks.
venice is calling in the heavy artillery.
i also have mafia connections who are not named guido, but knee-cap charlie and sal the stiletto.
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To look at the parts and not at the person is ultimately demeaning, no matter how well the object of our attention may accept it.
It's time to "knock it off," this time.
I can only imagine the pain of coming out of the organization in the way she has. Her story of courage is most moving and will be most memorable to me.
Jerry